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vcr to tv
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Alfred Lorona
2009-11-04 22:40:26 UTC
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I have a new tv and a new vcr unit. Both have a S-video socket. Will a
S-video cable between them transmit audio and video in both directions?

Thanks, AL
UCLAN
2009-11-05 05:26:43 UTC
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Post by Alfred Lorona
I have a new tv and a new vcr unit. Both have a S-video socket. Will a
S-video cable between them transmit audio and video in both directions?
No.

S-video is (as the name implies) video only. And ONE-WAY only.

Why would you want/need signals FROM your TV TO your VCR? Does your
TV even have a S-video output?
Alfred Lorona
2009-11-06 17:06:43 UTC
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Post by UCLAN
Post by Alfred Lorona
I have a new tv and a new vcr unit. Both have a S-video socket. Will a
S-video cable between them transmit audio and video in both directions?
No.
S-video is (as the name implies) video only. And ONE-WAY only.
Why would you want/need signals FROM your TV TO your VCR? Does your
TV even have a S-video output?
Well, what I am trying to do is record tapes on my vcr but there is no
audio/video output jacks on the rear of the tv. I have since learned that I
need a 'cable ready' vcr. However, all the ads I have seen say to program
the vcr to channel 3 or 4. I have two tv sets connected to my dish sat
receiver and the tv I want to add a vcr recorder to operates on channel 60
and not 3. I want to know if cable ready vcr's can be set up for channel
60. I have seen no info in ads that say this can be accomplished.
UCLAN
2009-11-06 20:32:58 UTC
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Post by Alfred Lorona
Post by UCLAN
Post by Alfred Lorona
I have a new tv and a new vcr unit. Both have a S-video socket. Will a
S-video cable between them transmit audio and video in both directions?
No.
S-video is (as the name implies) video only. And ONE-WAY only.
Why would you want/need signals FROM your TV TO your VCR? Does your
TV even have a S-video output?
Well, what I am trying to do is record tapes on my vcr but there is no
audio/video output jacks on the rear of the tv.
Your VCR should never be connected to *any* output jacks on your TV.
Post by Alfred Lorona
I have since learned that I need a 'cable ready' vcr.
Why? What makes you think that yours isn't?
Post by Alfred Lorona
However, all the ads I have seen say to program
the vcr to channel 3 or 4. I have two tv sets connected to my dish sat
receiver and the tv I want to add a vcr recorder to operates on channel 60
and not 3. I want to know if cable ready vcr's can be set up for channel
60. I have seen no info in ads that say this can be accomplished.
What do you wish to record *FROM* ?? [A TV is NOT a possible answer.]

(To record from CABLE channel 60, your VCR should be tuned to channel 60.)
Alfred Lorona
2009-11-06 21:59:08 UTC
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Hi, UCLAN:

Thanks for your info thus far. I seem to not be describing what I want to do
in a clear unambiguous manner so I'll try again.

Basically, all I want to do is record tv programs onto vcr vhs tapes.

My tv is the second tv connected to my existing satellite reciever. It works
on channel 60 and not channel 3.
I understand that I need what is called a 'cable ready' vcr to do this as
there is no way to obtain either video or audio output from the tv to feed a
vcr.

I understand that on a cable ready vcr, coax from the sat reciever goes to
vcr and coax cable from vcr to tv antenna input on the tv. Then I need to
scan for channels on the cable ready vcr and set it to output on channel 3
which is what a single tv is on.

My question is simply this: can cable ready vcrs be set to output on channel
60 so that the channels can be viewed on my ch 60 tv? In other words, are
cable ready vcr's made to select the output on either ch 3 or 60? I have not
seen any confirmation of this on the specs published on the advertisements.
I want to make sure before I go shopping for a cable ready vcr - those guys
at those stores don't know anything any won't be able to answer my question.

AL
UCLAN
2009-11-07 05:26:59 UTC
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Post by Alfred Lorona
Basically, all I want to do is record tv programs onto vcr vhs tapes.
Yes, but the *source* of these TV programs is *what*? Your satellite
receiver?
Post by Alfred Lorona
My tv is the second tv connected to my existing satellite reciever. It
works on channel 60 and not channel 3.
Please explain what you mean by "It works on channel 60..."
Post by Alfred Lorona
I understand that I need what is called a 'cable ready' vcr to do this
I'll ask one more time: WHY do you think this is true?
Post by Alfred Lorona
as there is no way to obtain either
video or audio output from the tv to feed a vcr.
Video or audio OUTPUTS from the TV don't go to the VCR. Video and audio
outputs FROM THE VCR go to the TV.
Post by Alfred Lorona
I understand that on a cable ready vcr, coax from the sat reciever goes to
vcr and coax cable from vcr to tv antenna input on the tv. Then I need to
scan for channels on the cable ready vcr and set it to output on channel 3
which is what a single tv is on.
Not at all correct. A satellite receiver has no need for a cable ready
VCR, nor does your VCR need to scan for channels.
Post by Alfred Lorona
My question is simply this: can cable ready vcrs be set to output on
channel 60 so that the channels can be viewed on my ch 60 tv?
A) Not normally (since it's not necessary.)
B) What is a "channel 60 TV" ??

What country are you in?
What are the make/model numbers of the TV/VCR/satellite receiver?
Alfred Lorona
2009-11-07 22:03:00 UTC
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I think we best start from the very beginning. A satellite TV system uses a
receiver box connected directly to the satellite dish antenna. All TV sets
in your house connect to the receiver box. Each box can control two
receivers. So if you have 4 TV sets you need two receiver boxes.

The TV channel you want to view is selected in the receiver box and NOT in
the TV in the usual manner. One receiver in the receiver box outputs the TV
signals on channel 3 and the other receiver in the receiver box outputs the
TV channels on channel 60. This means that one of your TV's must be set to
ch 3 and the other one set to ch 60.

VCR's on the market made to operate in the satellite system can be set to
output selected TV signals on ch 3 but I have not seen any confirmation that
they can, in addition, be set to output the signals on ch 60.

That was my question from the beginning. Can currently available VCR's be
set to output the TV channels on ch 60 as is required for the second TV?
Manufacturer's web sites and setup instructions DO NOT mention this at all.
They all say to set the VCR to output on ch 3 (or ch 4 which is the other
commonly used channel for this type of operation).

Perhaps I should have simply asked, in order to avoid confusion, what type
of VCR do I have to buy and how do I connect it to operate in a satellite
system. By 'connect' I mean what specific cables do I need and to what do I
plug them into. I don't want to go shopping and have to ask store personnel
the big question. I will get nowhere. Besides, what kind of cables will I
need.

My old TV which I have replaced with a modern flat screen job used to have
video and audio output RCA jacks in back which I simply connected to an old
VCR's video and audio RCA input jacks. How simple and straight forward can
you get? But my new TV does not provide this luxury - no output jacks!

I have tried manufacturer's and the dish technical support but they don't
know anything.
UCLAN
2009-11-08 06:16:44 UTC
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Post by Alfred Lorona
I think we best start from the very beginning. A satellite TV system uses a
receiver box connected directly to the satellite dish antenna. All TV sets
in your house connect to the receiver box. Each box can control two
receivers. So if you have 4 TV sets you need two receiver boxes.
I got my first satellite TV system in 1984, so I know how they work. Your
statement "All TV sets in your house connect to the receiver box. Each box
can control two receivers" makes little sense. Did you mean to write "Each
receiver can control two TVs" ??
Post by Alfred Lorona
The TV channel you want to view is selected in the receiver box and NOT in
the TV in the usual manner. One receiver in the receiver box outputs the TV
signals on channel 3 and the other receiver in the receiver box outputs the
TV channels on channel 60. This means that one of your TV's must be set to
ch 3 and the other one set to ch 60.
Well, not really. But your next statement is the crux of your confusion.
Post by Alfred Lorona
VCR's on the market made to operate in the satellite system can be set to
output selected TV signals on ch 3 but I have not seen any confirmation
that they can, in addition, be set to output the signals on ch 60.
If the VCR is properly connected to the satellite receiver, and the satellite
receiver is putting out a signal on channel 60, the VCR should be tuned to
channel 60. The TV is hooked up to the VCRs output, which is *still* channel
3. Or, if the VCR is bypassed, the TV is tuned to channel 60. If you want to
record the video that the satellite receiver is putting out on channel 60,
the recording VCR must be tuned to channel 60. The VCR *never* has to have a
channel 60 output.
Post by Alfred Lorona
That was my question from the beginning. Can currently available VCR's be
set to output the TV channels on ch 60 as is required for the second TV?
There is no such requirement! That is your error!
Post by Alfred Lorona
Manufacturer's web sites and setup instructions DO NOT mention this at all.
Because it doesn't occur (except in your posts here.)
Post by Alfred Lorona
They all say to set the VCR to output on ch 3 (or ch 4 which is the other
commonly used channel for this type of operation).
Which is correct. The fact that the satellite receiver is putting out a signal
on channel 60 affects the VCR's *input*, not its output.
Post by Alfred Lorona
Perhaps I should have simply asked, in order to avoid confusion, what type
of VCR do I have to buy and how do I connect it to operate in a satellite
system. By 'connect' I mean what specific cables do I need and to what do I
plug them into. I don't want to go shopping and have to ask store personnel
the big question. I will get nowhere. Besides, what kind of cables will I
need.
Buy any ol' VCR. Connect the satellite receiver's output to the VCR's input,
and the VCR's output to the TV's input. What sort of cables you use depends
on the input and output jacks available on your equipment.
Post by Alfred Lorona
My old TV which I have replaced with a modern flat screen job used to have
video and audio output RCA jacks in back which I simply connected to an old
VCR's video and audio RCA input jacks.
That's backasswards. The VCR's output should go to the TV's input.
Post by Alfred Lorona
How simple and straight forward can
you get? But my new TV does not provide this luxury - no output jacks!
The TV is a signal *receiving* device, not a signal sending device. If your
VCR is connected to a TV's output jacks, you can't change channels on your
TV without messing up what you are recording. Correct wiring:

Satellite receiver->VCR->TV.

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