Analog VCR question

[Korvette]

OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now? Plus, I lost my PIP feature..it was perfect with the analog
setup. This is my setup:

OTA to input of 2 x 1 splitter. One output of splitter going to my TV
input and the other going to the converter box input. I chose this
hoping I could get my PIP back...

[UCLAN]

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now?

Why not put a converter inline with your VCR?

[noel888]

Post by UCLAN

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to  view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr,  which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now?

Why not put a converter inline with your VCR?

I did, and I get the same results.

[UCLAN]

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now?

Why not put a converter inline with your VCR?

I did, and I get the same results.

*Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired? If your cable is on
channel 3, then your converter box must use the RCA type (composite)
A/V connectors to your VCR.

[noel888]

Post by UCLAN

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to  view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr,  which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now?

Why not put a converter inline with your VCR?

I did, and I get the same results.

*Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired? If your cable is on
channel 3, then your converter box must use the RCA type (composite)
A/V connectors to your VCR.

Not exactly, my rca cables from converter is going to one of my av
tuners..so i can view my new digital chnls...should that make a
difference with auto channel tuning?

[UCLAN]

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN
*Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired? If your cable is on
channel 3, then your converter box must use the RCA type (composite)
A/V connectors to your VCR.

Not exactly, my rca cables from converter is going to one of my av
tuners..so i can view my new digital chnls...should that make a
difference with auto channel tuning?

I'm lost. I'll repeat: *Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired?

[noel888]

Post by UCLAN

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN
*Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired? If your cable is on
channel 3, then your converter box must use the RCA type (composite)
A/V connectors to your VCR.

Not exactly, my rca cables from converter is going to one of my av
tuners..so i can view my new digital chnls...should that make a
difference with auto channel tuning?

I'm lost. I'll repeat: *Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired?

My setup is as follows: cable out to vcr in rf, component cables to my
TV/AV3 ( my tv has 4 AV's ) each one designated for another
product...AV1 ( Conv .Box ) AV2 ( vcr ) AV3 ( cable ) AV4 ( DVD ).
plus 2 tv tuners...A & B. Conv. box ( rca cables to AV1 ) OTA to input
splitter, one output going to tuner A and the other going to input of
Conv.box VCR ( rca cables to AV2 ) inputs. I don't see why any setup
should change my automatic channel tuning in my analog vcr...but, I
willing to learn.

[GMAN]

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN
*Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired? If your cable is on
channel 3, then your converter box must use the RCA type (composite)
A/V connectors to your VCR.

Not exactly, my rca cables from converter is going to one of my av
tuners..so i can view my new digital chnls...should that make a
difference with auto channel tuning?

I'm lost. I'll repeat: *Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired?

My setup is as follows: cable out to vcr in rf, component cables to my
TV/AV3 ( my tv has 4 AV's ) each one designated for another
product...AV1 ( Conv .Box ) AV2 ( vcr ) AV3 ( cable ) AV4 ( DVD ).
plus 2 tv tuners...A & B. Conv. box ( rca cables to AV1 ) OTA to input
splitter, one output going to tuner A and the other going to input of
Conv.box VCR ( rca cables to AV2 ) inputs. I don't see why any setup
should change my automatic channel tuning in my analog vcr...but, I
willing to learn.

Unless you have been under a rock or in Iraq, The US broadcasts in Digital
format now for over the air reception. So your analog tuner in your VCR is
only going to be usefull for cable TV, or as others here have stated, you use
a Digital converter box and run that thru your VCR. You then have to tune the
converter box to what you want to record manually, then set the vcr manually
to record that station either using channel 3 on the VCR, or using the
"composite" connection from the converter box to the VCR.

If you have analog cable, that requires no converter box, and the vcr tuner
should work like normal.

[UCLAN]

Post by noel888

Post by UCLAN
I'm lost. I'll repeat: *Exactly* how did you have *everything* wired?

My setup is as follows: cable out to vcr in rf, component cables to my

...so, it's actually cable *box* out...

Post by noel888
TV/AV3 ( my tv has 4 AV's ) each one designated for another
product...AV1 ( Conv .Box ) AV2 ( vcr ) AV3 ( cable ) AV4 ( DVD ).
plus 2 tv tuners...A & B. Conv. box ( rca cables to AV1 ) OTA to input
splitter, one output going to tuner A and the other going to input of
Conv.box VCR ( rca cables to AV2 ) inputs. I don't see why any setup
should change my automatic channel tuning in my analog vcr...but, I
willing to learn.

What channels are you expecting your analog VCR to see? Both the cable
box and the OTA converter box only put out channels 3/4. A rescan on
your analog VCR will only find that channel. It is your OTA converter
box that needs to be rescanned, not your VCR.

[Tony at the Shore]

Your question seems to say that you are using both over-the-air (OTA)
roof antenna reception and a cable company servive. I hope the
following plain language advice helps you.

For OTA roof antenna, I think the only thing you can do is: roof antenna
to digital converter box to VCR (on Ch. 3) to TV (on Ch. 3).
You can tape the output from the box one show at a time as long as the
box timer is set to the the same time as the VCR timer.
There really is no way to do much else.
My Apex box also has RCA plugs to run to a stereo for surround
sound or audio taping.
As for PIP and other gee whiz features on your old analog TV, sorry,
only Ch. 3 is useable.

If you have a cable company service, all the channels should still be
transmitted in both analog (which your VCR can still tape) and digital
which needs a cable company box. You do not need a OTA converter box
if you have cable company service (i.e. Bright House, Comcast) and
your old TV will work fine and your PIP should still work as long as
you directly connect the cable company cable into your TV. Your old
analog VCR will work the same as always if it is connected to the
cable company cable.

Remember, important, the cable company transmits both analog and
digital signals simultaneously. Analog is only channels 2 to 99 and you
don't need a cable company box. Digital is all the channels from
2 to 999 and you need a cable company box.

An OTA digital converter box is not for use with a cable company
service, only with the roof antenna.

One problem I found after the change is that a local university
public broadcast TV station has deside to provide the cable
company with only a digital feed. So my analog VCR and TV doesn't
get that channel. I fear other channels may deside to do that also
in order to cut down on costs.

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now? Plus, I lost my PIP feature..it was perfect with the analog
OTA to input of 2 x 1 splitter. One output of splitter going to my TV
input and the other going to the converter box input. I chose this
hoping I could get my PIP back...

[Tony at the Shore]

Your question seems to say that you are using both over-the-air (OTA)
roof antenna reception and a cable company servive. I hope the
following plain language advice helps you.

For OTA roof antenna, I think the only thing you can do is: roof antenna
to digital converter box to VCR (on Ch. 3) to TV (on Ch. 3).
You can tape the output from the box one show at a time as long as the
box timer is set to the the same time as the VCR timer.
There really is no way to do much else.
My Apex box also has RCA plugs to run to a stereo for surround
sound or audio taping.
As for PIP and other gee whiz features on your old analog TV, sorry,
only Ch. 3 is useable.

If you have a cable company service, all the channels should still be
transmitted in both analog (which your VCR can still tape) and digital
which needs a cable company box. You do not need a OTA converter box
if you have cable company service (i.e. Bright House, Comcast) and
your old TV will work fine and your PIP should still work as long as
you directly connect the cable company cable into your TV. Your old
analog VCR will work the same as always if it is connected to the
cable company cable.

Remember, important, the cable company transmits both analog and
digital signals simultaneously. Analog is only channels 2 to 99 and you
don't need a cable company box. Digital is all the channels from
2 to 999 and you need a cable company box.

An OTA digital converter box is not for use with a cable company
service, only with the roof antenna.

One problem I found after the change is that a local university
public broadcast TV station has deside to provide the cable
company with only a digital feed. So my analog VCR and TV doesn't
get that channel. I fear other channels may deside to do that also
in order to cut down on costs.

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now? Plus, I lost my PIP feature..it was perfect with the analog
OTA to input of 2 x 1 splitter. One output of splitter going to my TV
input and the other going to the converter box input. I chose this
hoping I could get my PIP back...

[Tony at the Shore]

Your question seems to say that you are using both over-the-air (OTA)
roof antenna reception and a cable company servive. I hope the
following plain language advice helps you.

For OTA roof antenna, I think the only thing you can do is: roof antenna
to digital converter box to VCR (on Ch. 3) to TV (on Ch. 3).
You can tape the output from the box one show at a time as long as the
box timer is set to the the same time as the VCR timer.
There really is no way to do much else.
My Apex box also has RCA plugs to run to a stereo for surround
sound or audio taping.
As for PIP and other gee whiz features on your old analog TV, sorry,
only Ch. 3 is useable.

If you have a cable company service, all the channels should still be
transmitted in both analog (which your VCR can still tape) and digital
which needs a cable company box. You do not need a OTA converter box
if you have cable company service (i.e. Bright House, Comcast) and
your old TV will work fine and your PIP should still work as long as
you directly connect the cable company cable into your TV. Your old
analog VCR will work the same as always if it is connected to the
cable company cable.

Remember, important, the cable company transmits both analog and
digital signals simultaneously. Analog is only channels 2 to 99 and you
don't need a cable company box. Digital is all the channels from
2 to 999 and you need a cable company box.

An OTA digital converter box is not for use with a cable company
service, only with the roof antenna.

One problem I found after the change is that a local university
public broadcast TV station has deside to provide the cable
company with only a digital feed. So my analog VCR and TV doesn't
get that channel. I fear other channels may deside to do that also
in order to cut down on costs.

Post by Korvette
OK, I got my converter box setup done a while back, but only recently
I attempted to automatically rescan my VCR Chnl tuner, since the
official date of conversion. Its practically useless.... I get
channels that are not even on my conversion box. Plus, none of them
are viewable anyway..about 7 of them..except chnl 03 where I am able
to view my cable. I did a straight connection from my outdoor antenna
to the vcr, which i had previously with my analog setup. I realize
the vcr can't get digital channels , so what purpose would the vcr
serve now? Plus, I lost my PIP feature..it was perfect with the analog
OTA to input of 2 x 1 splitter. One output of splitter going to my TV
input and the other going to the converter box input. I chose this
hoping I could get my PIP back...